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Author:  chrisavis [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls


"Microsoft’s customer agreements already included a pledge from the Redmond company to defend users of its Azure cloud-computing platform in cases in which third parties claim that the use of Microsoft’s software infringed on their patents. "


http://www.seattletimes.com/business/mi ... nt-trolls/

Author:  jdmeister [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls

Will Microsoft also cover "Trademark" issues? :roll:

Author:  chrisavis [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:55 pm ]
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jdmeister wrote:
Will Microsoft also cover "Trademark" issues? :roll:


Is there anything in my post or the linked article about trademarks?

Author:  jdmeister [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:01 pm ]
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chrisavis wrote:
jdmeister wrote:
Will Microsoft also cover "Trademark" issues? :roll:


Is there anything in my post or the linked article about trademarks?


Just a random thought.. Trademarks seem to be on everyone's mind these days.

Author:  chrisavis [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:01 pm ]
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jdmeister wrote:
chrisavis wrote:
jdmeister wrote:
Will Microsoft also cover "Trademark" issues? :roll:


Is there anything in my post or the linked article about trademarks?


Just a random thought.. Trademarks seem to be on everyone's mind these days.


Really?......Trademarks are on the minds of only a select few and only because they have nothing better to talk about. The topic seems to get injected into conversations to start an argument or as a means of getting some time on a pulpit to bash SC.

Which case was it here?

Author:  The Lone Ranger [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:25 pm ]
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8) I wonder who started the ball rolling with trademark infringement suits? Does the letters PEP mean anything? Just wondering.

Author:  doowhatchulike [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:59 pm ]
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Well, not trying to overstate the obvious, but the Forum Category IS KARAOKE LEGALITIES, so it may not be obvious to folks if, or if at all, to what extent, this has to do with the Forum Category...

Author:  Cueball [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:41 pm ]
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The Lone Ranger wrote:
8) I wonder who started the ball rolling with trademark infringement suits? Does the letters PEP mean anything? Just wondering.

Actually SC started it. Then PEP took over.

Author:  chrisavis [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:25 am ]
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Again.....no mention of Trademarks until......

Author:  JimHarrington [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:22 am ]
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chrisavis wrote:
Again.....no mention of Trademarks until......


Until an admin with an agenda decided to mention them.

Author:  djdon [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:25 am ]
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Patent trolling. Is that anything like trademark trolling?

Author:  The Lone Ranger [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:31 am ]
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cueball wrote:
The Lone Ranger wrote:
8) I wonder who started the ball rolling with trademark infringement suits? Does the letters PEP mean anything? Just wondering.

Actually SC started it. Then PEP took over.



8) Isn't it the same things since the players are all the same? Oh and PEP took over for Pirate Recovery as well didn't they? What happened to all of those suits, were they just dropped?

Author:  chrisavis [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:50 am ]
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djdon wrote:
Patent trolling. Is that anything like trademark trolling?


Are patents anything like trademarks? :)

Author:  djdon [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:27 am ]
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chrisavis wrote:
djdon wrote:
Patent trolling. Is that anything like trademark trolling?


Are patents anything like trademarks? :)


Is trolling anything like trolling, regardless of what it's for?

Patent trolls — companies that hoard patents for the purpose of lucrative intellectual property lawsuits.
Trademark/Service Mark trolls — companies that hoard tradmarks or service marks for the purpose of (lucrative) intellectual property lawsuits. :lol:

Author:  Kuelman1 [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:10 pm ]
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What the hell do any of these replies have to do with Microsoft?
If you want to start a trademark post go do it.

Author:  djdon [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:24 pm ]
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Kuelman1 wrote:
What the hell do any of these replies have to do with Microsoft?
If you want to start a trademark post go do it.


A better question would be, what the hell does the OP have to do with karaoke??

Author:  Kuelman1 [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls

Ok you win Troll away...

Author:  djdon [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls

Kuelman1 wrote:
Ok you win Troll away...

Well, do you have an answer that's not straw man or non-sequitur, or is 'OK you win Troll away' your best answer?

My questions are honest, candid and forthright.

Author:  chrisavis [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls

djdon wrote:
chrisavis wrote:
djdon wrote:
Patent trolling. Is that anything like trademark trolling?


Are patents anything like trademarks? :)


Is trolling anything like trolling, regardless of what it's for?

Patent trolls — companies that hoard patents for the purpose of lucrative intellectual property lawsuits.
Trademark/Service Mark trolls — companies that hoard tradmarks or service marks for the purpose of (lucrative) intellectual property lawsuits. :lol:



If "hoarding" is a per-requisite, then that would exempt SC/PEP. It's always been theirs and 1 is not a hoard. :)

But I know where you are going with this. We simply see it differently. I see it as PEP protecting their IP. Others see it as an attempt to "extort" (not my word) money out of people. There are remedies either way and people can be successful at karaoke either way.

Author:  djdon [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Microsoft to defend customers from patent trolls

chrisavis wrote:
djdon wrote:
chrisavis wrote:
djdon wrote:
Patent trolling. Is that anything like trademark trolling?


Are patents anything like trademarks? :)


Is trolling anything like trolling, regardless of what it's for?

Patent trolls — companies that hoard patents for the purpose of lucrative intellectual property lawsuits.
Trademark/Service Mark trolls — companies that hoard trademarks or service marks for the purpose of (lucrative) intellectual property lawsuits. :lol:



If "hoarding" is a per-requisite, then that would exempt SC/PEP. It's always been theirs and 1 is not a hoard. :)

But I know where you are going with this. We simply see it differently. I see it as PEP protecting their IP. Others see it as an attempt to "extort" (not my word) money out of people. There are remedies either way and people can be successful at karaoke either way.


L O L Chris, you do crack me up at times. The number of patents or trademarks is not the issue here and you know it.

Substitute the word hoard for use. It still defines the action of suing based strictly on the ownership of the patent, trademark or service mark as trolling.

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